tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38730987.post7315924641422979942..comments2024-03-04T14:16:41.184+00:00Comments on The Latin Mass Society Diocese of Middlesbrough: The Shape of Things to Comeroydosanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16938047251308288033noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38730987.post-21309711630239520542010-07-29T08:36:33.992+00:002010-07-29T08:36:33.992+00:00Apologies for mush typo which would have been avoi...Apologies for mush typo which would have been avoided had I been wearing my specs!<br />The Eucharistic sacrifice is expressed completely in any liturgical version of the Mass. It may not be to your liking but if the expression was 'more complete' in the traditional form of Latin Mass, then that form would be the norm here in Rome, and certainly in the Major Basilicas, and certainly the Holy Father would be using no other form. Where your argument fails is the word 'completely' The Eucharistic Sacrifice is the Eucharistic Sacrifice, it cannot be incomplete. Last week I met with army chaplains who had been serving in Afghanistan. They tell of the profound spiritual experience of Mass celebrated in difficult circumstances, sometimes on the front of an armored vehicle, wearing combat gear and helmet with just a stole. Tell me this is 'incomplete' It is fine for you to have your personal liturgical preference, but it is not superior to mine when I celebrate in Irish, Italian or EnglishAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38730987.post-55884672590781764822010-07-24T22:52:19.406+00:002010-07-24T22:52:19.406+00:00"...the Holy Father loves the vernacular as m..."...the Holy Father loves the vernacular as mush... MUSH? Was this a Freudian slip or a description of the vernacular? <br /><br />I disagree with the simplistic statement that "the Eucharist is at the heart of our Catholic faith and life, not liturgy." In fact this is part of the modern problem. The word 'Eucharist' [thanksgiving] is both the sacrament and the sacrifice of Christ truly present under the appearances of bread and wine and cannot really be separated from the liturgy. It is in the holy Sacrifice of the Mass made present on our altar, in the liturgy of the Church, that God descends from heaven to feed us with the holy sacrament. Eucharist and liturgy are inextricably linked and cannot be considered as separate entities. It is during the Mass, the greatest liturgical action of the Church, that Jesus offers Himself, through the action and words of the priest, as the unblemished Victim to save mankind. The Eucharist does not simply appear out of thin air. <br /><br />Lex orandi lex credendi is the oft stated maxim that the law of prayer is the law of belief. The prayer and law of the Church with regard to the Eucharistic Sacrifice is admirably and completely expressed in the traditional form of Mass; the same, unfortunately, cannot be said of many Masses in the vernacular. <br /><br />I would also disagree with the statement that the Holy Father loves the vernacular as 'mush'as he loves Latin. Can anonymous say where (s)he read this? I would not dream of trying to speak for the Holy Father but I would say that on general evidence of his writings and statements over the years that the opposite opinion is probably more valid.Don't Agreenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38730987.post-954784494464535782010-07-24T22:05:05.662+00:002010-07-24T22:05:05.662+00:00This is a silly activity. The Holy Father appoints...This is a silly activity. The Holy Father appoints bishops and there is a well established process to ensure that the Holy Father is properly advised. Not all recently appointed bishops are supporters of the Latin Mass but this is hardly surprising as the Holy Father loves the vernacular as mush as he loves Latin. The Eucharist is at the heart of our Catholic faith and life, not liturgy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com