The purpose of this blog is to provide an open forum for discussion of the aims of the society; news from the wider Church and details of Masses and events of interest in the diocese. The Latin Mass Society in the Roman Catholic Diocese of Middlesbrough expresses its full filial devotion and loyalty to Holy Mother Church, Pope Francis and Bishop Drainey.


12 Noon. Every Sunday MissaCantata at Church of St Wilfrid, Duncombe Place, York. YO1 7EF

11:30am. (Winter months) 6pm. (Summer months) Every Sunday Church of the Sacred Heart, Lobster Road, Redcar. TS10 1SH

6.30pm First Wednesday of each month at Church of St Charles, Jarratt St. Hull. HU1 3HB


6pm. Every Sunday Church of St Wilfrid.
Duncombe Place, York. YO1 7EF

09 December 2017

Pope Francis on Latin

In a message to a meeting of the Pontifical Academies in Rome, Pope Francis is reported as saying:

"Teachers should know how to speak to the hearts of young people, know how to treasure the very rich heritage of the Latin tradition..."

As is usually the case with Pope Francis, he talks around the subject, dropping in suggestions and inferences, but not being very clear about what he actually means.  Many reporters have interpreted the pope's message as encouraging the teaching of Latin, especially to young people. 

30 November 2017

Immaculate Conception

Friday 8th December is the Feast of the Immaculate Conception.  There will be a Solemn Mass in the Extraordinary Form at St Wilfrid's Church in York at 6pm to mark the occasion.

28 November 2017

Wednesday 6th December

The Next Latin Mass in Hull will be at 6.30pm  at the Church of St Charles Borromeo on Wednesday 6th December.

20 November 2017

Shortage of Priests in the Dioceses of England and Wales

There have recently been a few posts on various blogs concerning the numbers of men putting themselves forward for training for the priesthood, and the number ordinations of diocesan priests.  Everyone is agreed that there are acute shortages in most dioceses, and that matters will get worse in the years to come.

Some people have commented that many of our bishops have failed to grasp the problem, saying such things as "it is in the hands of the Holt Spirit".  My view is that the bishops of England and Wales now take the matter seriously, but perhaps some have not done so in the past.  However, I believe that many of the bishops of England and Wales have yet to adopt the remedial measures that are needed.

I believe that over the past 40 years, there has been a significant number of young men who have felt a call to the priesthood, but have been put off by what they see in their parishes.  I believe there have been many others who have spent one or two years in a seminary, before deciding that the seminary lifestyle is not for them.  There is yet another category of potential priests who have applied to their bishop, and been told to go away and think about it for a year or two.

It is likely that in most of these cases, the candidate has had a more traditional concept of priestly life than either they had observed in their parishes or in seminary.  In some cases it may have been the bishop who felt unable to accept a candidate, usually because the candidate is perceived to show traditional leanings.  My belief is that, if over the last 40 years the Church had been more welcoming to these candidates, the priest shortage within our dioceses would be far less acute - possibly to the extent of 200 or more diocesan priests.

What leads me to think along these lines?  Firstly, I have personally come across more than a few young men who would seem to fit this scenario; and there must be many more unknown to me.

Secondly, we have the evidence of the traditional orders that are now establishing themselves in this country.  Yesterday I met one young man who had just returned from a weekend in Warrington where he had been discerning his vocation with the Priestly Fraternity of St Peter.  He told me that he was one of seven.  At Preston, the Institute of Christ the King have just set up a House of Discernment, and five young men have chosen to spend a year there.  This shows a high level of commitment, as in most cases it has involved giving up job or perhaps an entire career.

My third bit of evidence is the recent growth in the number of Oratories in this country. In recent years, Orarories have been formed in Manchester, York, Bournemouth and Cardiff, and between them, they have attracted at least six novices.  The Oratory communities are traditional in their lifestyle and offer the Latin Mass in their churches.

So what conclusions do we draw?  Firstly, the priest shortage in the dioceses need not have been as severe as it is; and the dioceses could still attract more priestly vocations if the more traditionally minded candidates were made more welcome.  Reform is particularly needed in our seminaries.

The second conclusion is that the traditional orders will be playing an increasingly important role in the Catholic life of this country in the years to come.

06 November 2017

Pontifical Requiem Mass

There will be a Solemn Pontifical Mass of Requiem at 3pm on Saturday 11th November in St Anne's Cathedral, Cookridge Street, Leeds.  

The celebrant will be His Lordship the Bishop of Leeds, Marcus Stock, and the Mass will be offered for for his predecessors as Bishops of Leeds.

Neil Walker dis supply me with an attractive poster for this event, but I am unable to include it here, for reasons that I do not understand.  Nevertheless, it will be a momentous occasion, and I would urge anyone able to attend to tavel to Leeds for the event.

31 October 2017

Feast of St Charles Borromeo

Saturday 4th November is the Feast of St Charles Borromeo, and there will be a Sung Mass at St Charles Church,  in Hull at 12,10pm.

The celebrant will be Fr Mark Drew, and the musical setting will be Byrd's Mass for Four Voices, sung by the Rudgate Singers.  

For those who do not know the church,  the interior of St Charles' Church, which dates from the time of the Catholic Emancipation, is impressive, with many statues of saints.

The Mass is being billed as one of Hull's City of Culture events.

Feasts of All Saints and All Souls

There will be Latin Masses at 6pm at St Wilfrid's Church in York on both Wednesday and Thursday of this week for the feasts of All Saints and All Souls.

There will be NO 6.30pm first Wednesday Latin Mass at St Charles' in Hull on 1st November as there is no priest available.  There will, However be a Mass on Saturday 4th November at 12.10pm to mark the Feast of St Charles Borromeo.  See next post.

28 October 2017

Rosary in the Sky

Papa Stronsay, the blog of the Transalpine Redemptorists, has a splendid post which includes the following picture.

At their Oratory in New Zealand, they made a rosary from gas filled baloons, and released it into the sky to mark the centenary of the apparitions of Fatima.  Apparently it rose until it could not be seen any longer.  Presumably, the baloons eventually burst, and the rosary landed somewhere, although there is no account of it being found.

19 October 2017

Priestly Ordinations in France

I have recently come across some statistics about priestly ordinations in France.  These figures are for diocesan ordinations only, and exclude all traditional and religious orders.

What I was not aware of, is the increasing practice in France of diocesan priests being ordained according to Extraordinary Form rites.  The following figures cover the years 2010 to 2015, and so are not fully up to date.

Year           OF                   EF                   Total

2010          96   (86%)       16   (14%)        112
2011        109   (88%)       18   (14%)        127
2012          97   (83%)       20   (17%)        117
2013          92   (88%)       12   (12%)        104
2014          88   (83%)       18   (17%)        106
2015          68   (77%)       20   (23%)          88

Taking the six years together, about 16% of diocesan ordinations have been in the extraordinary Form.  The most noticeable feature of these figures is the downward trend in the numbers being ordained in the Ordinary Form.  Although there is no marked trend in the numbers being ordained in the Extraordinary Form, the trend in this percentage of EF ordinations is definitely upward.

As far as I am aware, there is no example in England and Wales of any diocesan priest having been ordained in the EF in recent times, although Archbishop McMahon has ordained two FSSP priests, using the old liturgy.

A relatively new phenomenon in France is the bi-ritually trained diocesan priest.  I presume that most of these opt for ordination in the EF, and represent most of the EF ordinations enumerated above.

When one adds the ordinations of Frenchmen belonging to the FSSP, ICKSP and IBP into the mix, and also takes into account the traditional Benedictine and Augustinian monasteries in France, which are prospering, the proportion of ordinations in the Extraordinary Form is quite impressive, probably 40% at the present time.

16 October 2017

Mass in Hull - November

There will be no Latin Mass at St Charles Church in Hull on Wednesday 1st November.  This is because there will be a Solemn Mass at St Charles Church at 12.10pm on Saturday 4th November to mark the Feast of St Charles Borromeo.    There will be more about this in a future post.